2020-10-03_21h47_44
蠱惑の壺 
僕の心のヤバイやつ53&54話感想

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)12:10:24 No.208424526
ちぃは可愛いなあ
Chii is cute
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:08:35 No.208422089
萌は実際には良い娘で俺たちが思ってたような「:3」顔のビッチじゃなかった
俺の人生は嘘なんだ...
Moe is actually a good girl and not the :3 slut we all thought she was.
My life is a lie.

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:30:52 No.208423015
>>208422089
うん、萌は今回よくやってくれた。市川があの場所にいたのが、もしかして萌に呼ばれて出てきたんじゃないかという推理をしてたのが申し訳ないね（LINE交換してたから）
良い子だから、いつか素敵な彼氏が見つかるといいね
Yeah, Moe did good this chapter. I feel kinda bad for theorizing that maybe he was there because she got him to come out somehow (since she has his LINE.)
She's a good girl, I hope she gets a nice boifwi someday.

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:08:34 No.208422088
これはレ◯プでは？
Is this r@pe?
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)19:15:32 No.208435558
>>208422088
そうだよ
4chanの基準ではね
yes by 4chan standards

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)10:58:25 No.208421684
「フラグベキベキマン」って何？Flag bekibeki man?
What's フラグベキベキマン? Flag bekibeki man?

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:21:19 No.208422654
「フラグベキベキマン」についてお話します。
フラグはアドベンチャーゲーム用語で未来への分岐を選ぶために立てられる旗のこと。
ベキベキは板や棒が壊れる擬音語。
マンはここでは特に意味はない、ジョークっぽく、面白く聞こえるように付けてる。
「フラグベキベキマン」を意味的に英語にすると、「センパイとくっ付く未来が消えちまったわ」って感じ。それを可能な限りジョークっぽく、それでいて先程の行動をちょっと後悔してる雰囲気で言ってる。
I'm going to explain "フラグベキベキマン"
フラグ(flag)
A flag to be put up to choose one of several branches of the future.
Adventure Game Terms.
ベキベキ(beki-beki)
Sound effect term of boards and sticks breaking.
マン(man)
There's no paticular meaning to it, it's put on to make the phrase jokey and make it  sound funny.
To translate meanly of "フラグベキベキマン", "I can no longer see a future for me and senpai relationship developing", in this case. She's expressing, in the most joking way possible, just a little bit of regret for her earlier actions.

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:34:19 No.208423143
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)13:09:52 No.208426479
NTR編このあとすぐ！
NTR arc soon
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:30:40 No.208423009
疑ってしまって萌にはマジで申し訳ない
萌は市川が山田のこと好きなの知ってて市川の手握りにいくのかよ
I really feel bad for moe. She knew he liked yamada but she tried her hand at trying to bag him

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:32:16 No.208423075
>>208423009
いいや、あれは女性特有の友人の男が本当に誠実なのか、誰でもいいんじゃないのかのテストだよ
もし市川が手を握り返したり萌に付いていくのに同意してたら...すぐに山田に密告してただろう
女性の集団防衛のメカニズムのようなものだ
no that's what women do, they test loyalty of suitors for their friends
to check if boy isn't literally fine with anyone
if he held her hand or agreed to go up with Moe - she'd snitch to Yamada right away
that's kinda their collective defense mechanism
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)10:58:25 No.208421684
ウェイって何？way？
What's ウェイ? way?

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:26:02 No.208422849
>>208421684
ウェイはただのワイの変化型
ウェイ is just ワイ with inflection

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)11:29:25 No.208422964
>>208422849
「ウェーイ系」の短縮形、パリピって意味
It's short for "ウェーイ系".that means "hype people".

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)12:41:22 No.208425569
>>208422964
ウェ（ー）イは間投詞で一般にチャラいと見なされる単語
ウェイ系は「ウェーイ」を使うようなチャラい若者のこと
ウェ(ー)イis interjection, which is considererd as too frank generally.
ウェーイ系 means a sort of young peaple who use "ウェーイ"

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)12:00:27 No.208424185
Oh shit
(山田がいたから)萌の誘いを断ったのは失敗だったな
he f*cked up by declining her invite.

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)10:44:10 No.208421044
なんで断ったの？
Why didn't he agree?
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)10:48:32 No.208421237
>>208421044
萌の家に誘われたと思ったからでしょ
実際には芹那の家で山田もそこにいたんだけど。けど市川にそれを知る由もない
He thought he'd been invited to her house.
It was actually Serina's house, and Yamada was there too, but he found out later.

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)10:49:51 No.208421297
>>208421237
女性特有の友達の男を試すやつ嫌い
I hate female girl friends testing suitors loyalty for each other

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)15:47:35 No.208431016
照明のせいか太って見えるのは俺だけか
is it just me or does the lighting fatten her here
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)18:01:10 No.208433862
ここの下半身描写は山田が子供を作る身体と心の準備が出来てるということをのりおが強調してるんじゃないかと思える
It's like Norio's trying to emphasize that Yamada and her body are ready and willing to produce children.
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)19:22:43 No.208435735
まて、山田は市川が好きだって言ったこと聞いてたの？
Wait, did Yamada hear what ichikawa said?

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)19:23:22 No.208435750
>>208435735
俺は山田はスーパーマンではないと思うよアノン
I don't think she's Superman anon.

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)19:25:46 No.208435801
>>208435750
最後のとこ、市川は目の前にスマホを握りしめたままだったじゃん。通話切ってるかどうか分からないし
He's still holding the phone in front of him. I don't know if he hung up.

蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)20:47:30 No.208437749
>>208435801
「ブチっ」は電話切ってる音
”ブチッ” is sound of hanging up.
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蠱惑の壺 09/08/20(Tue)10:25:10 No.208420166
は～えがった
Hmm, good enough


【以下、54話感想】

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:09:09 No.209053882
54話更新
54 is up, dumping
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:25:42 No.209054623
この家族尊い！
Adorable family!
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:16:42 No.209056486
>∞
可愛すぎか
so cute.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:10:29 No.209058412
>>209056486
なんて完璧なスケジュールだぁ...
Truly a perfect schedule

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:11:53 No.209058451
>>209056486
うわ今知った
恋する乙女か
Oh shit just got that. Maiden. In. Love.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:14:28 No.209056404
＞ママが山田のこと「山田さん」って呼んでる
この場面で14歳に対してさん付けは普通の敬語なの？
>the mom calls her Yamada-san
Is this the normal honorific for a 14 year old in this situation?
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:35:37 No.209057157
>>209056404
まあ普通
well it's normal.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:12:25 No.209058478
>>209056285
このページは考えれば考えるほど可愛い
お姉ちゃんが「ああなるほど、うちの弟が好きなのはこの娘か、でも好きな人待ってる感じの」って理解するんだけど当然その「彼」が自分のこと指してるのを市川が自覚して残ってた否定的な防護壁を根こそぎ貫かれてる
This page is cuter the more I think about it because onee-chan clearly realized "oh, that's right, my brother has a thing for this girl, probably shouldn't imply that it looks like she's waiting for someone she really likes" but of course since he knows that it's *him* that she's waiting for she's unknowingly blown through several dozen of the remaining layers of his denial armor.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:32:35 No.209057045
＞一呼吸置いて勇気を振り絞る山田
>Yamada takes a breath to work up her courage
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:46:50 No.209057571
4ページ目の最後のコマが可愛すぎる
That last panel is cute af
Yamada hyping herself to see her cursh
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蠱惑の壺 09/23/20(Wed)03:37:19 No.209083245
市川の父ちゃん背高いな
市川の成長期はまだか
His dad is pretty tall. Ichikawa growth spurt when?

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:11:11 No.209053978
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:25:19 No.209054604
>>209053978
草
kek

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:20:40 No.209054413
>>209053978
可愛い！
Cute!

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)17:40:05 No.209066986
>>209053978
このアホ姉貴は何歳なの？
How old is the dork sibling?

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:50:58 No.209057734
山田は市川父より背高いのなｗ
she is taller than his father kek

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)13:18:59 No.209060946
>>209057734
公平に言うと、山田はヒール履いてる
tbf she has them heels on

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)22:03:52 No.209072057
>>209057734
ヒール履いてるし
でもそこまで背高い訳じゃないと思う、市川父より数cｍ高いくらい
She has heels, but they aren't really high. I think she's just a couple of cm taller than ichi's dad

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)15:47:53 No.209064848
ここのコマが溶けてるのは汗だくに緊張するシチュのいい表現だな
the meltiness in this panel is a nice depiction of sweat-inducing social scenarios
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:12:14 No.209054023
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)15:13:33 No.209064105
>>209054023
あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”あ”
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)21:52:37 No.209071806
>>209054023
うわぁ...
Oh my

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)17:52:41 No.209067199
>>209054023
この後で市川は他の”アシスト”も必要としそう
he's gonna need another assist after that

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:34:48 No.209057127
>>209054023
これは...新たな次元にイッてるな
This is next level

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:27:51 No.209054699
>>209054023
＞市川のお祈りをヘルプする山田
はい俺死んだ～
>She helps him pray
I'm ded

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:37:53 No.209055053
>>209054699
＞彼女の獲物をヘルプする山田
>She helps her prey

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:16:22 No.209054221
>>209054023
捕食者...
Predator

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:29:08 No.209054745
>>209054023
超キュート
Extremely cute
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:21:45 No.209056664
>>209054023
寺社の眼前で手合わせ？！この女には恥じらいというものがないのか
hand dolding in front of the shrine?!, no shame at all that woman
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:13:28 No.209056371
>>209054023
素晴らしい...このページを見るために生まれてきた気すらしてきた
Amazing, I feel like I was born to see this page
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)23:38:55 No.209074679
>>209054023
姉がすぐ隣にいるのにそれやんの？
Isn't her sister right next to them and she's still doing THAT?

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)23:40:17 No.209074726
>>209074679
日本ではお祈りする時目を閉じる(五・七・五)
You close your eyes when praying in Japan.

蠱惑の壺 09/23/20(Wed)00:23:25 No.209076019
>>209074679
目閉じてるし一歩かそこら前にいるから気づかない
Her eyes are closed and she's a step or so forward from them so she wasn't gonna notice.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:03:20 No.209058160
>>209054023
＞手と手を合わせる
＞公衆の面前で
＞家族の目の前で
＞姉のすぐ隣で
＞その辺の通行人の面前で
＞公衆の面前で
市川の両親に良い印象を与えたくはないのか？
>touching hands
>in public
>in front of his family
>right next to his sister
>in front of random strangers
>in public
She wants to make a good impression on his parents?

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:08:47 No.209058363
>>209058160
いや、山田は自分の獲物の所有権を主張したいんだ
No, she wants to lay claim to her prey.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:34:32 No.209054927
＞3コマ目4コマ目5コマ目
レイプだ。これは捕食レイプだよ
>3rd 4th and 5th panel
that's r@pe. this is predatory r@pe.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:57:03 No.209057935
>>209054023
この漫画が好きすぎて....辛い...
I just love this manga so much... It hurts.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:58:13 No.209057974
>>209057935
俺にとっての読む抗うつ薬だよ
It's the anti depression happy pill for me.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:28:09 No.209059083
>>209054023
＞市川：想い人が自分に近づきすぎてもう助からないところまで来てあたふたしている少年
＞山田：欲張りで愛の思い少女
理想的なカップルだな！
>Ichikawa - a boy who gets flustered the closer his crush gets to him, to the point of being unsalvageably horny on mere physical contact
>Yamada - a very grabby, smothery girl
This is the ideal couple

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)21:11:56 No.209070934
>>209054023
一番下のとこなんて書いてあるの？
What does the hand written text say at the bottom?
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)21:14:42 No.209070999
>>209070934
不動明王
Fudo Myoo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acala

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)21:18:11 No.209071075
>>209070999
なるほど...ありがとう
困惑してる不動明王可愛い
I see. Thanks. That's cute of fudo myoo to be confused.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:12:47 No.209054042
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:32:22 No.209057037
>>209054042
＞ふーーん...変わらなくていいの？
山田（捕食できるまであと一歩のとこまで来た...あと一押し、あとほんの一押しがあれば...最高）って感じ
>Hmmm...You sure you want things to stay the same?
We're so close I can TASTE it. We just need one more push, one small nudge and then....greatness.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:38:56 No.209057280
お姉とイッチーが穴あきスキニージーンズをシェア履きしてたら興奮する...
How hot would it be if Onee and Ichi were sharing skinny ripped jeans?
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:22:57 No.209056705
＞今日の山田は本当に美しい...
>Yamada is really beautiful today...(Is it just her outfit?)
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)17:38:15 No.209066954
>>209056705
ここ正確には「美しい」ではないかな
「振る舞いや見た目がきっちりしている」というニュアンスで14話の「フニャフニャする」の正反対の表現
どっちの表現も面白いよね
>>Yamada is really beautiful today
This might not be exactly "Beautiful".
It's closer to "behaving and looking decent"
The opposite of this is closer to the expression "フニャフニャする" in ch14.
Both expressions are a bit comedic, by the way.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)17:36:56 No.209066932
＞参拝の真の厄災の前触れにすぎない
ご主人さま(山田)の期待通りの展開に...
>Shrine visit was merely a prelude to the true calamity
Just what you'd expect from the master
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)18:52:54 No.209068269
>>209054104
平常運転の山田をみてお姉がすぐに平静を(ほぼ)取り戻したのが好き
I love how big sis instantly regained (most of) her composure when she sees the normal Yamada.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)19:15:31 No.209068729
>>209068269
お姉が山田がフレンドリーなの見た瞬間家に誘ったのは「この感じならきっとノーとは言わない」って判断した感じかな。あと、その状況が実現したときへの期待と興味関心が...全部顔に出てるな
お姉はこの漫画で一番感情豊かで面白いキャラだわｗ
When Onee saw Yamada looking friendly, she invited her to her house.
Like, "She's like that, so she probably won't say no."
Plus, that expectation and the interest in the situation when it comes true... it's all over her face.
She's one of the emotional and funny characters in this manga lol

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)19:33:10 No.209069040
お姉がヘタったのはちょっと残念。もっとイジワルでクールでロックな対応を期待したんだけど
A bit disappointed she crashed. I expected more teasing and cool rock girl antics.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)19:34:38 No.209069065
>>209069040
次回で山田が本当はアホなのがバレたらそうなるかも
Next chapter when she realised how much of a dork Yamada really is.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)19:49:28 No.209069361
＞獲物の家族に溶け込もうと試みる山田
she is yabai
>she's attempting to blend in with her prey's family
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)19:50:11 No.209069373
>>209069361
獲物の群れに溶け込む肉食獣...
something "predator blends among the herd of prey" or something

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)22:58:21 No.209073583
>>209069361
その画像サムネで見ると怖い
thumbnail's scary

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:40:23 No.209057338
すっごく素晴らしい回だった。次回は山田が市川家訪問？
Holy f*ck, the chapter is so f*cking wonderful. Yamada visiting Ichikawa's house next week?

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:14:22 No.209054133
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:26:54 No.209054669
>>209054133
なんか死んだ？
is she kill?

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:57:06 No.209055751
>>209054747
前のページで山田がお姉ちゃんに気づく前に「市川の分も買っといたよ」って発言してたわけ。お姉ちゃんから「誰かと待ち合わせしてなかった...？」→「ん？市川の分も買っといたよ？ということは？」となって最初に山田を見かけたときの「明らかに好きな人を待ってる感じ」の様子をフラッシュバックして「マジかよ...」って気づいてしまってる
There's also the fact that in the previous page when Yamada first sees him I'm pretty sure she's saying that she bought some of the food for him before noticing onee-chan, so when onee-chan asks who Yamada was waiting for and Yamada gets evasive she goes "wait, 'I bought this for you, Ichikawa'... in that case... *flashes back to her checking up on her appearance* OH F◯CK"
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:08:52 No.209056199
>>209055751
お姉は二人が待ち合わせしてたことに気づいたんだ。弟にとんでもなく脈があることに気づいて大興奮
Onee noticed that they were meeting up and that she had made special arrangements for that.
She's excited to realize that her brother has a tremendous opportunity.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:13:28 No.209056371
>>209054133
下のコマのバッグについてる犬のキーホルダー、山田に目撃されたんじゃないかこれ？
Is that the dog charm exposed to Yamada's sight in the bottom panel?
2020-09-27_09h44_26

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:05:17 No.209058240
>>209054133
「脈がある」は「（相手を）好き」って意味。だからここは「絶対弟のこと好きじゃん！」って感じ
脈がある means “like someone”, so it's more like “She totally likes him!!”

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:07:38 No.209058330
>>209058240
英語だとそっちの方が響きが良いけど、ストレートすぎる
脈（希望）は確実性がより少ない単語
This sounds better in English but it would be too straight forward.
The word 脈(hope) has less certainty in it.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)12:16:04 No.209058635
>>209058330
確かにそうだけどここでは「脈”しか”ない」だから「絶対好きじゃん」ってニュアンスで良いんだよ
You're right, but she's saying 脈“しか”ない so she's sure that Yamada likes him

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)10:36:33 No.209055007
今回は１１ページだけ？
なんにせよ山田はkawaii
Only 11 pages this time around? Yamada is still kawaii

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:05:50 No.209056075
今回の展開は自分が思ってたのとは違ったな、良い意味で。
山田が何かしら「スパゲッティをこぼす(＝やらかす)」のを期待してたんだけど、ガチの「仕事モード」になるとは思わなかった
This is different from what I expected,
but in a good way.
I was more or less expecting Yamada to spill her spaghetti, really didn't expect her to be in her "work" mode.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:08:53 No.209056200
>>209056075
市川と山田の関係で一番面白いのは、予想外の展開が本当によく起こるんだよね。よく描かれてる
Its whats most fun about her and Ichikawa, they kind of often do really unexpected things. They're pretty well written.

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:29:55 No.209056938
念願叶った女の顔である
This is the face of a girl whose dreams have just come true.
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蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)20:07:21 No.209069666
>>209056938
お姉の誘いに対して一瞬で興奮したリアクションが可愛すぎる。口の中のもの噛み切れてすらねえ...。あのキーホルダーのこと、ついにバレそう？
Her f*cking, instant excited reaction to that question is too cute. Didn’t even finish chewing her food before barking that out
I wonder if we’ll finally learn what those trophies are for. 

蠱惑の壺 09/22/20(Tue)11:34:32 No.209057115
素晴らしい回だった
午前4時まで起きていた甲斐があったってもんだ
Wonderfull, it was worth staying up until 4am after all.


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