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蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)15:51:01 No.216509776
>ファンタジーもので主人公は王国に住む若者
>王に謁見してもすぐに頭を下げない、フランク、場合によっては口答えする
>近衛兵に首を刎ねられそうになる
>fantasy element, mc is young in a monarchal society
>meets king, does not immediately bow / is informal / might talk back
>some nearby guard will immediately try to lop his head off
trope:
創作でよくある展開、お約束

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:02:33 No.216510064
>>1
現実だとこれはいたって正確でしょ。当時王は本物の神として見られてた。王を軽視することは死刑を意味する
Thats actually pretty accurate in real life, kings were looked at as literal gods back then. Disrespecting them WAS a death penalty.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)18:20:07 No.216513585
>>1
個人的にこれが問題になるのは主人公が実際には首を落とされないことだな
My only problem with it is that the mc's head isn't actually lopped off

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:07:38 No.216510183
>>1
主人公が鉄の意志を持ってるように描かれるけど、実質的に不死身で何に関してもいつも成功するから意志の強さは特に意味がないパターン(少年漫画によく見られる)
The protagonist is made out to have a will of steel, but this is entirely irrelevant because he’s practically immortal and always succeeds anyways (this is especially common in shounens).

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:08:57 No.216510222
>>1
主人公が誰に対しても失礼だけど、偉い人は笑って「その態度が気に入ったとか」言われるパターンの反対のやつかな?
As opposed to "MC is rude to everyone but important people just laugh and say they like his attitude because having anyone dislike him would derail the plot"?

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:30:07 No.216510743
>>216510222
これも本当にクソだわ
一貫して生意気で強引な主人公はただウザいだけ。未だにこういうのが描かれるのが理解できない
That one’s also pretty rancid.
Consistently cy, overpowered MCs are just grating and awful. I really don’t understand how they still get written.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:35:40 No.216510890
>>216510743
とはいえ、主人公が大陸全部をぶっ飛ばせるくらい強いのにやたら低姿勢で強さの言い訳をしてるパターンもそれはそれでウンザリだな
That being said I am also sick of the trope of the MC's being able to bumf*ck an entire continent but they keep trying to "keep his head low" and come up with stupid excuses as to why they are so overpowered.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:37:08 No.216510926
>>216510743
>>216510890
god complex(神コンプレックス=
仮想的有能感)的なナルシストのために作られるんだこういうのは
those are made for narcissists with a god complex

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:13:05 No.216510337
>>1
>イジメっ子が誰かに絡んでる
>主人公が来て止める
>蹴飛ばされる
>イジメっ子達が「もういい、行こうぜ」ってなる

これが分からない。主人公も元々の標的も叩きのめせばいいのになんで止めてしまうんだ
>bully f*cks with someone
>MC comes and stops it
>gets his shit kicked in
>bully then goes "tch it's not worth it anymore, let's leave"
I don't get it. They clearly can beat the f*ck out of the MC and the original person they were bullying. Why do they stop?

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)19:41:58 No.216515694
>>216510337
牢屋には行きたくないからな
they don't want to go to jail .-.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)19:36:08 No.216515531
>>216510337
標的を殺したい訳ではないからな。どこかで止めなきゃいけない
Because bullies aren't usually looking to murder their victims ? At some point they have to stop.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(ue)16:19:19 No.216510484
>>1
>女の子が話しかけてきたり触れたりするとオーバーリアクションして叫ぶ主人公
これが原因ですぐゴミ箱行きになるアニメの割合はマジですごい。「なんてことないシーンでのクソデカ叫び声」はマジでウザい
>Male character overreacts and screams when a girl talks to him or touches him
A truly impressive percentage of anime is immediately thrown in the trash because of this. The "over the top screaming during mundane scenarios" by characters in general is really annoying

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:24:19 No.216510601
>>216510484
童貞主人公のお約束パターンはほんと目障りだな。特に普段は社会的にすごく有能として描かれてたりするとなおさら
Yeah the virgin MC trope is f*cking annoying, especially when they are shown to normally be quite competent socially.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)20:48:54 No.216517450
>>1
>神が悪い
>10代の子供が神を倒す
>Gods are bad
>teenagers defeating gods

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)21:01:27 No.216517801
>>216517450
少年向けは毎回これ
every shonen

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)20:02:28 No.216516204
>>1
>ハーレム物で何話も釣る
>最高なヒロイン達が主人公のち●ぽに欲情
>最後に主人公から捨てられ、他のパートナーを見つけるでもなく一人ぼっちのまま終わる

>Baiting a harem for a lot of chapters
>great girls lusting for dense mc's c
>rejected at the end and instead of find suitable partner they stayed alone

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/17/21(Wed)00:42:45 No.216525429
>>216516204
俺いま(メインヒロイン以外の)他の女の子達に他の男がいるやつ読んでるわ
I'm actually reading one where the other girls have their own man.


蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)18:33:23 No.216513917
>>1
1. 一行でビーチ回、これまでのストーリーや人間関係との齟齬は気にするな
2. 異世界主人公が料理の神
> The team goes to the beach episode, even if it doesn't fit the story or previous character interactions
> isekai MC being a cooking god

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)18:55:20 No.216514459
>>216513917
>料理界に味噌とカレーと醤油で革命をもたらす主人公
>MC revolutionizes the culinary world with miso, curry and söy
1613469320596
「粛清だ」

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)19:15:32 No.216514993
>>216514459
>”美味しいけど米がないと、いますぐ米が欲しい”
あとは
>”白米の上に卵をかける”
>”オイシイ!!!!!”
>米の上に魚を乗せる

>”オイシイ!!!!!”
>"It's good but need more rice. I want rice right now"
Also
>put egg on top of rice
>"OISHIIIIIII!!"
>put fish on top of rice
>"OISHIIIIIIIII!!! "

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)17:55:21 No.216512917
>>1
>献身的な女の子ばかりのハーレムの主人公
>主人公は一番つまんないヒロインに夢中
おまえのことだぞToLOVEる
>MC has a harem of girls throwing themselves at him
>He is obssesed with the most boring one
I am looking at you, To love-ru.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)18:45:40 No.216514231
>暴漢に襲われる女の子
>主人公が瞬殺して助けると、一瞬で女の子が主人公のち●こを欲しがるようになる

この自己挿入的な釣り餌はほんとチープだわ
>some c●cky thugs bully a girl
>OP MC easily defeats them, rescue the girl and she immediately wants to s*ck his d●ck
This self-insert bait is so f*cking cheap

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)18:54:12 No.216514431
>>216514231
ヒロインは主人公の竿をしゃぶりたkがってるのに主人公が童貞すぎて拒否するパターンだとますます酷くなる
Even worse when she wants to s*ck his d●ck but he's too much of a virgin to let her

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)18:58:04 No.216514530
>>1
>異世界に行く
>ありきたりな西洋ファンタジーRPG
>他のジャンルには一切興味なし
>どういう訳かRPGシステムで動いてる世界
RPG的なのはもうウンザリだ
>let's go to another world
>it's a generic uninspired Western fantasy RPG
>Nevermind all the other genre that exist
>For some reason the world still operates on f*cking RPG mechanics
I f*cking hate RPGs.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)19:33:54 No.216515474
>>216514729
実際に楽しんでしまえば、いくつあっても見るのがラクなんだよ
It's easy to watch things over and over again if you actually enjoy them.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)21:03:47 No.216517867
>主人公に悪いことが起きる
>バーサーカー/厨二モードになる
>特にその力が説明されることはない。もしくは作者の説明が下手

>something bad happen to the mc
>go in berserker/edgy mode
>it's never explain how he get that much power or the author give some half baked explanations
1613477027661

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)21:56:11 No.216519483
>>216517867
古典的な学園ファンタジーだな
現実でいうとアメリカの高校生の銃乱射事件が一番近い
Classic highschooler fantasy
The closest to reality this gets are the American high schoolers and their tendency to go on a shooting rampage.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:03:45 No.216510094
>>1
殺せるのに悪役を殺さない
Anything were they decide to not kill the villain even though they can.

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)18:49:53 No.216514332
>>216510094
これは正直状況によるな。
・悪役がそこまで悪くない
・安全に封印することができる
これなら問題ない。
悪役が完全に化け物で、間違いなくこれからも化け物で居続けるし、制御することも無理なのに主人公は「殺すのはいけないことだ」といってそれを押し通すのはクソ
That honestly depents on the situation.
The villain wasn't that bad? He can and will be safely contained?
Then it's fine.
It's stupid when the villain was a complete monster, will certainly continue to be a monster, can not be contained and the MC tries to justify it with "killing is bad mkay!".

蠱惑の壺 4chan /a/ 02/16/21(Tue)16:22:02 No.216510546
>>216510094
俺は悪役がレ●プされようが精神崩壊しようが構わんわ
I don't mind if the villain is r●ped and mindbroken though.
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